With the release of the new OtsAV - "Esperance" - now imminent, this is your LAST CHANCE to save on OtsAV licenses. The pre-release Esperance Promotion we have been running will END with the official release.
Remember that all OtsAV 1.85 full licenses purchased at this time include FREE UPGRADE to Esperance and are at a SIGNIFICANT DISCOUNT to the usual cost of licenses. If you want Esperance or need additional licenses for your outfit, NOW is the time to buy.
http://ots.gs/2Fg
We thank you for your continued support and stand poised and excited to unleash our latest creation in next to no time at all.
The Team @ Ots Labs
It would be nice Adam if we knew what was in Esperance so we know what we are upgrading too with an extra license.
Quote from: DJ Postie on July 26, 2012, 09:15:36 PM
It would be nice Adam if we knew what was in Esperance so we know what we are upgrading too with an extra license.
I agree...I really do. The secrecy is compelling for sure...but if the promotions are going to end on release then really OTS need to be feeding some information out to us otherwise it's a bit of a gamble.
However....
I don't think OTS will fail to deliver anything short of something amazing in the next few days.
It's easy to assume that if they are going to meet the July commitment, they know exactly what is on the release. Just saying what it is will generate a lot of pre-excitement.....is that even a word?
Who cares LOL...sounds good to me.
Information = more license sales.
This is like Apple saying, "our next operating system will be brilliant" and then not telling us anything about it. If the current operating system is also brilliant then people might not bother...but if they say what is brilliant and it is....then they will sell loads.
With the release eminent a competing vendor does not have time develop programming to match the features of Esperance so divulging the new features does not hurt business.
If the new features of Esperance are truly innovative and desirable then knowing these ahead of the actual release should drive sales up immediately.
I guess I'm just not smart enough to understand this business model.
Drip feed marketing is old school, at least release a screen shot or some release info.
Using what seems to be chain letter style emails is more bad for business than good, just release it and stop mucking around.
You would find more people would by more licenses if they new the product improvements.
I know you are all impatient but just wait a few more days,
Also remember if you need another licence you need one, if you don't it doesn't it will not matter whats in the next release, have faith they have never dissappointed in the past.
This all sort of reminds me of a lottery. No one knows what the winning numbers will be, but people are still willing to buy tickets.
No one knows what the new features of Esperance are. I wonder how many gamblers there are out there.
Cheers,
CraZee Canuck
Quote from: CraZee Canuck on July 27, 2012, 05:54:49 AM
This all sort of reminds me of a lottery. No one knows what the winning numbers will be, but people are still willing to buy tickets.
No one knows what the new features of Esperance are. I wonder how many gamblers there are out there.
Cheers,
CraZee Canuck
Not me... I'd rather pay a bit extra than buy now and have something may not even live up to the hype. If they were serious about offering a discount, they would at least offer some snippets of info even a few days before the official release. Then we would objectively be able to decide to buy now at a discount or pay full price. It seems that they don't want anyone to really be tempted by the 15% off.
Hi guys,
Please remember that we're simply informing people here so that everyone has an equal and fair chance and no one can complain later. We're not specifically trying to sell extra licenses as such. Why would we bother when Esperance is just around the corner and will naturally sell itself (and we won't lose the discount amount then as we are now)?
The point is that people buy OtsAV - AS IS (1.85) - due to the featureset and stability it has NOW. We wouldn't expect most people to buy a license for something they know very little about (ie. Esperance). However, if you KNOW Ots and you NEED more licenses anyway, eg. your business has grown, then you may as well buy them now at a reduced price because this promotion is definitely going to end. Whenever a promotion ends we always get people writing in asking us to extend it (even when we have stated upfront that we can't).
When we started publishing on Facebook we received concerns from some customers saying they would never use social media and were worried about being left out or treated worse as a "plain old email user". Similar sentiments were expressed by some regarding this forum. So our purpose here is simply to make sure (via all the various mediums) that everyone who wants to be is well and truly informed that this promotion will soon be ending. That way, no one can complain later. Also remember that some of our customers are buying large batches (eg. 10, 50 or sometimes even far more) and of more expensive products like OtsAV TV Broadcaster. So a discount becomes quite lucrative and being on the ball can save them a lot. If it doesn't apply to you (you already have enough licenses to cover your immediate and projected short-term needs) then that's great!
If you're just interested in upgrading an EXISTING license, well that's an entirely different issue and something that can be dealt with after the release. Of course in reality, many of our customers have needs in both camps (some licenses to upgrade later, but are also growing now in terms of absolute systems required). Again, they will save by paying attention now. And whatever is in Esperance is kind of irrelevant (though of course very welcomed).
Now if you're not a current Ots customer and basically just an observer, then of course it would be a gamble to buy now if you don't like or can't use Ots as it already is (1.85). We're not specifically promising anything in this release other than what we have stated: "Easier to use. More powerful. More Fun. - It's everything you've tasted, only better". Yes, this is a very significant release as you'll all see very shortly, but that doesn't mean it's going to magically address everyone's wishlist - and certainly not the initial version of this new series. We recommend waiting if you're in this camp unless you already know enough to know you want to use Ots and/or like to gamble ;)
Anyone who thinks Ots is trying to compete with other DJ tools is seriously misguided. We never have and never will. It's not part of our roadmap or vision. It's been said a million times already, but if another tool suits your needs best, then use it! What are you doing here??? Ots has heaps of very happy, loyal and regular (many buying new licenses every single month) customers spanning a number of industries including real growth industries (which unfortunately the DJ market is not - it's actually being watered down by streaming services, personal devices, etc). Don't get me wrong, we want to be a better DJ tool - and Esperance definitely is. But we're not about to sell our souls or compromise our long-held values and standards. We do what we do and it works very well indeed. It may not be for absolutely everyone, but obviously we meet the needs of plenty or we wouldn't continue doing it.
Quote from: ianforest on July 27, 2012, 12:23:36 AM
Information = more license sales.
This is like Apple saying, "our next operating system will be brilliant" and then not telling us anything about it. If the current operating system is also brilliant then people might not bother...but if they say what is brilliant and it is....then they will sell loads.
Hi Ian,
That's pretty much *exactly* what Apple attempt to do every time, LOL!
"If the current operating system is also brilliant then people might not bother"
Again the point is being missed. We don't specifically wish for anyone to "bother" unless they have a need for additional licenses, in which case they will want to bother and the imminent release of Esperance simply makes this a very ideal time to start "bothering" if they are a cost-sensitive operation (like many).
As far as what is new in Esperance, well everyone will just have to wait! But not much longer now :P
Cheers,
Adam
:thumbsup:
Well said Adam!
Quote from: Ots_Adam on July 27, 2012, 03:18:19 PM
That's pretty much *exactly* what Apple attempt to do every time, LOL!
As far as what is new in Esperance, well everyone will just have to wait! But not much longer now :P
I tell you what Adam, you guys seriously have been reading the Apple guide to Marketing. This sort of hype is akin to iPhone 5 lol.
What is "not much longer now"?! Lol
I know this has been mentioned before, but has there been a particular day that OTS would release new versions? I kind of remember staying up one weekend waiting for the release. Would they really release it on a tuesday? Does the day really matter to them? These are some interesting questions...what do you think?
Quote from: Ots_Adam on July 27, 2012, 03:18:19 PM
That way, no one can complain later.
I disagree.
No matter what you do, someone will complain :icon_lol:
Steve,
How is the independent testing going?
i'm going to be brutally honest here....i've changed my tune about some of the other software...i still use some of it...
but my secret weapon has been ots..it given me the edge over other dj's i know..yes they slate it...but then again ...they have problems with freezing..sound.. etc.
so i'm of the opinion i don't want it to be a popular as the "others" so to speak..that way i'll always have the edge.
this update hopefully will address some thing that are needed, just to be on par with some of the other software.
i'll wait now, but i was hoping that they would have released a minimum spec as regards system requirements.
no doubt it will move as the software will be doing more things.
as you can guess..will be looking to get new machine before the christmas season start.. :wowza:
Quote from: ianforest on July 27, 2012, 04:09:26 PM
I tell you what Adam, you guys seriously have been reading the Apple guide to Marketing. This sort of hype is akin to iPhone 5 lol.
The difference of couse is that Apple delivers new product in a timely fashion.
Quote from: krzyd on July 28, 2012, 11:11:53 AM
The difference of couse is that Apple delivers new product in a timely fashion.
And, as stated before, Ots Corp ran into some unforeseen delays. I'm sure they could have released it much sooner, but I for one would much rather wait for the solid, stable release that makes Ots the amazing software that it is. Good things come to those who wait.
Agreed, Mike
Adam, you are referring to DJ's (am assuming nighclub dj's) but what about radio broadcasters? If you are not addressing the DJ scene, will Esperance make your products more radio broadcaster friendly? I.e. A decent/simple way to voicetrack? This is what we need more than just a new and prettier CGI. :)
Quote from: Mike Sinclair on July 28, 2012, 12:19:35 PM
And, as stated before, Ots Corp ran into some unforeseen delays. I'm sure they could have released it much sooner, but I for one would much rather wait for the solid, stable release that makes Ots the amazing software that it is. Good things come to those who wait.
Been around here since 2001
Quote from: Radioboy104 on July 28, 2012, 12:52:45 PM
Adam, you are referring to DJ's (am assuming nighclub dj's) but what about radio broadcasters? If you are not addressing the DJ scene, will Esperance make your products more radio broadcaster friendly? I.e. A decent/simple way to voicetrack? This is what we need more than just a new and prettier CGI. :)
Sadly i dont think the radio side of OTS will ever get much better. After spending the last 3 years with RCS i feel like i stepped back in time running OTS. Would be great if OTS Radio was more then just OTS DJ with a few extra features
Quote from: krzyd on July 28, 2012, 11:11:53 AM
The difference of couse is that Apple delivers new product in a timely fashion.
Ha! heading to a gig, wait till I tell you guys what I just went throught with iTunes!!
Come on, guys . . . I thought you liked carrots! :p
Quote from: krzyd on July 28, 2012, 11:11:53 AM
The difference of couse is that Apple delivers new product in a timely fashion.
Different markets completely, my 7 year old son has iPod touch and the latest iPad, so to compare iOS releases against a much smaller user base is unfair even if ots re using proven marketing techniques!
My ipod crashes quite often!
Not trying to get everyone riled up, I'm waiting on Edargpu too, but let me ask a question: If 2.0 was here 1, 2 or 5 years ago, would you mind an occasional crash? If not, how often? Jeff, you still have the ipod, correct, no company will get everything perfect. It just seems very valuable market share has come and gone, and in my opinion, that has slowed development further. I'm still hoping for some "blow the industy away" features, I might even dust off the equipment and book a few gigs.
It would seem to me that 90% of the people on there forums are DJs mostly mobile or club; so to ignore their need in my opinion would be a huge mistake. As already said there really is a need for a quality reliable DJ software with solid video mixing and Virtual DJ/Traktor type feature. I feel OTS could take the market if they managed to achieve their stability with additional features. Fingers crossed !
Quote from: Ots_Adam on July 27, 2012, 03:18:19 PM
Hi guys,
Please remember that we're simply informing people here so that everyone has an equal and fair chance and no one can complain later. We're not specifically trying to sell extra licenses as such. Why would we bother when Esperance is just around the corner and will naturally sell itself (and we won't lose the discount amount then as we are now)?
The point is that people buy OtsAV - AS IS (1.85) - due to the featureset and stability it has NOW. We wouldn't expect most people to buy a license for something they know very little about (ie. Esperance). However, if you KNOW Ots and you NEED more licenses anyway, eg. your business has grown, then you may as well buy them now at a reduced price because this promotion is definitely going to end. Whenever a promotion ends we always get people writing in asking us to extend it (even when we have stated upfront that we can't).
When we started publishing on Facebook we received concerns from some customers saying they would never use social media and were worried about being left out or treated worse as a "plain old email user". Similar sentiments were expressed by some regarding this forum. So our purpose here is simply to make sure (via all the various mediums) that everyone who wants to be is well and truly informed that this promotion will soon be ending. That way, no one can complain later. Also remember that some of our customers are buying large batches (eg. 10, 50 or sometimes even far more) and of more expensive products like OtsAV TV Broadcaster. So a discount becomes quite lucrative and being on the ball can save them a lot. If it doesn't apply to you (you already have enough licenses to cover your immediate and projected short-term needs) then that's great!
If you're just interested in upgrading an EXISTING license, well that's an entirely different issue and something that can be dealt with after the release. Of course in reality, many of our customers have needs in both camps (some licenses to upgrade later, but are also growing now in terms of absolute systems required). Again, they will save by paying attention now. And whatever is in Esperance is kind of irrelevant (though of course very welcomed).
Now if you're not a current Ots customer and basically just an observer, then of course it would be a gamble to buy now if you don't like or can't use Ots as it already is (1.85). We're not specifically promising anything in this release other than what we have stated: "Easier to use. More powerful. More Fun. - It's everything you've tasted, only better". Yes, this is a very significant release as you'll all see very shortly, but that doesn't mean it's going to magically address everyone's wishlist - and certainly not the initial version of this new series. We recommend waiting if you're in this camp unless you already know enough to know you want to use Ots and/or like to gamble ;)
Anyone who thinks Ots is trying to compete with other DJ tools is seriously misguided. We never have and never will. It's not part of our roadmap or vision. It's been said a million times already, but if another tool suits your needs best, then use it! What are you doing here??? Ots has heaps of very happy, loyal and regular (many buying new licenses every single month) customers spanning a number of industries including real growth industries (which unfortunately the DJ market is not - it's actually being watered down by streaming services, personal devices, etc). Don't get me wrong, we want to be a better DJ tool - and Esperance definitely is. But we're not about to sell our souls or compromise our long-held values and standards. We do what we do and it works very well indeed. It may not be for absolutely everyone, but obviously we meet the needs of plenty or we wouldn't continue doing it.
Hi Ian,
That's pretty much *exactly* what Apple attempt to do every time, LOL!
"If the current operating system is also brilliant then people might not bother"
Again the point is being missed. We don't specifically wish for anyone to "bother" unless they have a need for additional licenses, in which case they will want to bother and the imminent release of Esperance simply makes this a very ideal time to start "bothering" if they are a cost-sensitive operation (like many).
As far as what is new in Esperance, well everyone will just have to wait! But not much longer now :P
Cheers,
Adam
The problem with trying to sell reduced licences before the official release is pure and simple, most of the world is going through tough times and are finding austerity particularly difficult. For example most of the eurozone is in a bad place at the moment and quite a few people are being squeezed and are simply making do with what they have until things get better.
Me personally have just forked out over 10k on a new sound system so from a business point of view i'm not doing too badly, but I don't yet need any more licences for my DJ business as that is rather flat at the moment and can't see me ever expanding on 1 licence as my backup machine runs VDJ 7.0 and my recent investment is currently being paid for by my tribute band which to be honest there has been a massive explosion in with regard to booking, if things carry on at this rate I will knock the DJ business on the head as £300 - £450 per gig with the DJ business does not stack up against £1200 - £1600 per gig with the band.
But back to why peeps won't part with their money now. Ask yourself this question, would Microsoft, Apple, Sony or any other software developer wether it be for productivity or enjoyment ask for copies of their software to be paid for before release without knowing what features they are actually buying...... And the feature set of what is being brought is the most important as in this instance one glove certainly don't fit all, and without knowing that me and maybe quite a few others won't buy until its released. I would rather pay more for something later with features I would use rather than taking a gamble with features I would probably never use as a DJ I call being shrewd in business and it's not a stupid or unwise attitude to take.
However you could change the ball game considerably by say or offering.... Buy this product now or upgrade now.... try it.... and if it's not for you then you get a refund.... to me in the current climate that seems more prudent in offering a promise if you as a developer have faith in your software that everyone will be pleasantly pleased, that way you get the cash flow as business upfront.
Just my thoughts, probably a bit too late to act on though at this stage.
Quote from: krzyd on July 28, 2012, 10:33:20 PM
If 2.0 was here 1, 2 or 5 years ago, would you mind an occasional crash?
Nope. I would much rather give up some cool features and be confident that my software isn't going to crash at someone's event.
my copies of PCDJ and VDJ have cool features, but have never been used at a gig because of an occasional crash I had during testing.
Quote from: scott hanna on July 29, 2012, 11:48:37 AM
Nope. I would much rather give up some cool features and be confident that my software isn't going to crash at someone's event.
my copies of PCDJ and VDJ have cool features, but have never been used at a gig because of an occasional crash I had during testing.
Same here! Never once had an issue with Ots.
Quote from: Nicolee on July 29, 2012, 10:24:24 AM
The problem with trying to sell reduced licences before the official release is pure and simple, most of the world is going through tough times and are finding austerity particularly difficult. For example most of the eurozone is in a bad place at the moment and quite a few people are being squeezed and are simply making do with what they have until things get better.
Me personally have just forked out over 10k on a new sound system so from a business point of view i'm not doing too badly, but I don't yet need any more licences for my DJ business as that is rather flat at the moment and can't see me ever expanding on 1 licence as my backup machine runs VDJ 7.0 and my recent investment is currently being paid for by my tribute band which to be honest there has been a massive explosion in with regard to booking, if things carry on at this rate I will knock the DJ business on the head as £300 - £450 per gig with the DJ business does not stack up against £1200 - £1600 per gig with the band.
But back to why peeps won't part with their money now. Ask yourself this question, would Microsoft, Apple, Sony or any other software developer wether it be for productivity or enjoyment ask for copies of their software to be paid for before release without knowing what features they are actually buying...... And the feature set of what is being brought is the most important as in this instance one glove certainly don't fit all, and without knowing that me and maybe quite a few others won't buy until its released. I would rather pay more for something later with features I would use rather than taking a gamble with features I would probably never use as a DJ I call being shrewd in business and it's not a stupid or unwise attitude to take.
However you could change the ball game considerably by say or offering.... Buy this product now or upgrade now.... try it.... and if it's not for you then you get a refund.... to me in the current climate that seems more prudent in offering a promise if you as a developer have faith in your software that everyone will be pleasantly pleased, that way you get the cash flow as business upfront.
Just my thoughts, probably a bit too late to act on though at this stage.
Did you actually even read that text that you quoted? ;)
Many customers have taken advantage of the promotion since our notice went out and are obviously grateful to have received the reminder. If it doesn't apply to you in your situation, that's OK. But at least you were informed as was everyone else. My apologies if you have a problem with that.
Where do you get the idea that we're trying to sell licenses? (My post which you quoted in full clearly states that we lose money when people buy now while the promotion is running). And why do you say that "peeps won't part with their money now"? No one has stated anything of the sort in this thread and it certainly hasn't been our experience. What makes you think the situation in Europe has anything to do with this? We're based in Europe and well aware of things here. Actually, some of our strongest growth is eminating from this region - but that's also quite irrelevant to this thread. Yes, of course parts of Europe, and elsewhere in the world, are struggling to various degrees, and equally some areas and some industries are really thriving. But again, all that has little to do with this thread which is simply a courtesy notice to a customer base.
How about we just keep the thread on track and to the point? - otherwise it becomes too tiresome to bother providing *any* explanations at all. We come here and post from time to time to shed some light on things that may be helpful or insightful, keep the members here updated, etc. But we're not here to be instructed about Europe, politics, whether people are apparently buying things right now, or whatever, nor have it insinuated that it's some kind of "crime" to inform our customers of an offer (try telling that to the customers who are taking advantage of it). All of those things are for the most part irrelevant to our purpose here because they vary so much from region to region, culture to culture, industry to industry and person to person, that you can't really base global decisions on the experiences of one, or a handful of people.
We're a company developing and selling innovative and well-established audio/video software that is widely used. If you want to buy it, you will. If you don't, you won't. If you need another license and choose to take advantage of a promotion, you reap a financial benefit. If you don't need another license anyway, then of course you're not going to buy, promotion or not! It's hardly rocket science. We'll continue to do our best and to keep customers informed where possible and feasible. With all due respect, we're not actually seeking business advice from this medium. And especially not when you clearly haven't even fully read the explanation I've already provided. You still seem to be stuck under the false assumption that people buying now are doing so solely for Esperance. Of course some may, but that's hardly the case for the majority. If everything hinged on Esperance, then how/why have we continued to sell so many licenses leading up to this point? Yes, a new release is always exciting (of course - we're very excited ourselves), but OtsAV is a stable, mature product that has been powering many venues and services since the time Bill Clinton was in the Oval Office. Now that's a thought.
Cheers :)
Adam
What a good thread. I've really enjoyed reading the thoughts and opinions of users of OTSAV and OTS Steve replying with the firms outlook on their way they run the business. At the end of the day they own and run the business and have better insight into how it is going. If they were loosing sales then no doubt they would change but are happy at the moment to continue on the same track.
I would like to thank OTS Steve for taking the time to visiting this forum and taking time replying to various threads and no doubt by the end of the week he and his fellow works will be able to take a nice deserved break :thumbsup:
Ots Adam too
Should of checked :icon_lol: Thanks OTS Adam.
Yeah, it's rare, but it's a treat when Adam comments here!
Thanks to everyone at Ots Labs for such a wonderful product, and may Esperance prove to be more wonderfull and stable than our current OtsAV.
With less than 3 days left, we shall find out for ourselves very soon what Esperance is all about.
I'm curious, when it's released, if there are some things missing, as they said could possibly happen. Will they tell us? Or, will they just release what they have and then have a patch a month or two down the road. Since they like the secrecy of the launch, I'm thinking that they may just say some things didn't make the launch and will be forthcoming. It would be nice to know what if anything didn't make it in this release, or at least that something didn't make it and will be coming.
Quote from: cprman67 on July 29, 2012, 03:37:38 PM
I'm curious, when it's released, if there are some things missing, as they said could possibly happen. Will they tell us? Or, will they just release what they have and then have a patch a month or two down the road. Since they like the secrecy of the launch, I'm thinking that they may just say some things didn't make the launch and will be forthcoming. It would be nice to know what if anything didn't make it in this release, or at least that something didn't make it and will be coming.
It'll all be in the e-mail / site post
well said Adam :thumbsup:
Sometimes I think people forget that we are actually communicating with the company making our software. You don't have access like this to other companies.
Quote from: Ots_Adam on July 27, 2012, 03:18:19 PM
Anyone who thinks Ots is trying to compete with other DJ tools is seriously misguided. We never have and never will. It's not part of our roadmap or vision. It's been said a million times already, but if another tool suits your needs best, then use it! What are you doing here??? Ots has heaps of very happy, loyal and regular (many buying new licenses every single month) customers spanning a number of industries including real growth industries (which unfortunately the DJ market is not - it's actually being watered down by streaming services, personal devices, etc). Don't get me wrong, we want to be a better DJ tool - and Esperance definitely is. But we're not about to sell our souls or compromise our long-held values and standards. We do what we do and it works very well indeed. It may not be for absolutely everyone, but obviously we meet the needs of plenty or we wouldn't continue doing it.
Personally, I think the statement regarding the DJ market not being a real growth industry is very short-sighted. I believe if Ots could offer a solution that provides the rock-solid base product they already have along with the abilities of Traktor, Serato, etc. and combine it into a new rock-solid "Esperience" you could greatly increase the base of DJs that use Ots. DJs are springing up all the time, there is a new generation and the rock bottom feeders are using Windows Media Player and Winamp, believe it or not, but I believe if you build it, they will come! Word of mouth is the best advertising. Add the features that mobile and club DJs are asking for and other applications are providing and I have the feeling Ots will do everything better.
From your response it almost sounds like you are gearing new features toward your more "lucrative" markets, such as television but you'd be surprised at how big of a market there is for DJs, my small town of population 1000 has no less than 4 DJ companies, bigger cities have thousands of DJs. Hopefully you are going to make your club & mobile DJs happier too and that in turn will make OtsCorp a bigger business and get the recognition I believe you deserve. You have already supported external controllers, DJs just want more support and support for newer controllers. You have already indicated features that have been in Ots but never implemented such as lighting control. I don't want to get too long-winded, but I just wanted to let you know my feelings on your comment. I've been in the mobile/club DJ business for over 26 years now and using Ots since Windows 98 was the newest operating system. And I still would not switch to a new DJ program - I've tried others and for my style of DJing, Ots is still the best. I look forward to your latest creation! Thanks for continuing to work on OtsAV.
Lets face it the DJ market is small, Ots needs more than the DJ Market, I can see where they are coming from, of course it is important to DJs, but the market is small compared to the other areas they cover. I think if Ots only relied on the DJ market they wouldn't be around today, you can see from Adam's and Steve's recent posts the amount of people taking advantage of the recent offer not just single licences but multiples, not many djs will be doing that.
Be honest a lot of so called DJs dip in to the business, do it as cheap as they can often with illegal software then just fade away, those that want to do it properly will buy good software and work hard to achieve high standards and a good business.
Quote from: Jigger on July 30, 2012, 05:24:58 AM
Lets face it the DJ market is small, Ots needs more than the DJ Market, I can see where they are coming from, of course it is important to DJs, but the market is small compared to the other areas they cover. I think if Ots only relied on the DJ market they wouldn't be around today, you can see from Adam's and Steve's recent posts the amount of people taking advantage of the recent offer not just single licences but multiples, not many djs will be doing that.
Be honest a lot of so called DJs dip in to the business, do it as cheap as they can often with illegal software then just fade away, those that want to do it properly will buy good software and work hard to achieve high standards and a good business.
I agree. That could be one reason you see other dj software companies merging with other software companies. Very difficult to make a business out of just selling software to DJs
i see the clock at the top is set to hawaiin time...
seeing that the company is based is stockholm sweden..maybe time to reset the clock to that time zone... :thumbsup:
I think it Hawaian time zone in line with Ots using this time zone for other releases.
Ots Labs have ran promotions to 23:59 Hawaian time in the past. I think it's fair to assume that if they leave it until the last possible moment, it would be the last time zone on the planet.
Right, just after 5am Hong kong time, been up all night ... gonna sleep for a few hours.
Hopefully, when i wake up i'll be in Esperance
While being a resident in the state of Hawaii, I always feel honored that OTS uses my time zone for its promotions. :)
So when they say midnight 7/31, I know its really midnight for me. And all of you gain some extra hours in the process. :thumbsup:
However, it is spelt HAWAIIAN, not "hawaian" or "hawaiin" :icon_lol:
Just a little while more guys...
Russell! I knew that, but it slipped me mind when I did it. Thanks for the tip off!
I copied the post above. I had no idea how to spell it. Thanks.
Awfully quiet around here all of a sudden....... :wacko: :confused:
WII TAKE CALLER # 15 FOR are prizeline THEN THE phone company
hears all the relay's go BANG . Does this sound familiar?
Snowman :wowza:
I just cannot understand why they have not released any information about what is in the release.
Wetting people's appetite is a good way to create intrest in the release.
Just my thoughts as it has been a long time coming and it would seem that the release may simply be propaganda or spin.
All they need to do is send out an email to all licensee's and say the release will contain, this, this and this.
Quote from: djnpd on July 31, 2012, 05:50:52 AM
I just cannot understand why they have not released any information about what is in the release.
Wetting people's appetite is a good way to create intrest in the release.
Just my thoughts as it has been a long time coming and it would seem that the release may simply be propaganda or spin.
All they need to do is send out an email to all licensee's and say the release will contain, this, this and this.
It's the way it has always been with OtsCorp, they dangle the carrot in front of you to either get you excited or to purely wind you up, hence my earlier post.
Myself will wait until after the release and assess if I need another licence, as I cannot justify spending money on something that I know nothing about. Of course I know features what exist in Ots current form, but who's to say things might be so radically different with regard to its layout it may end up pushing people away, highly unlikely but nether the less a risk as people will always have differing views on what the like, also there are folks who simply don't like change and would prefer to stick with what they have.
All we can do it wait and see what transpires.
Doesn't time drag when you are waiting for something :rolleyes:
"This was posted 5 hours ago on Facebook"
A lot of chatter about the Esperance release on the www.facebook.com/OtsAVDJ page! Who would have thought? :)
It's currently 5:54am in HAST - the timezone Ots Labs uses for all promotions, etc, as others have noted.
~18 hours remaing. Can we do it???
Have we ever missed a "line in the sand"? ;)
Thanks for your passion. We LOVE it!!
Thought I would Jump in,
Hello BJ. Welcome to the forum.
OTS RULES, I've been an OTS User Since forever, my computer was on windows98 and ots was $98.00. As so many have stated ots is without a doubt dependable, it has never once let me down, and I have used it at least once a week since purchasing. Having said that, I purchased the Denon MC6000 controller and took the software that came with it to the pro version so that I could take advantage of the onboard sound card, but there is also another laptop with OTS on it connected to the line out. OTS says they will have their software mapped for the mc6000 on the next release so I will patiently wait for that unless there is something that I just can't do without on this release. I like all OTS users am excited about the esperance release and can't wait to see what it will do. I like all OTS Users am loyal to guys at ots, they forever changed how I DJ and in the process made life better.
Waiting patiently in South Carolina
BJ
:wowza:
[Scream] I Can't believe it after all this time , haven't slept all week , reminds me of when I was aged 6 waiting for santy claus. Come on ots, must be thousands of us all wide awake slurping back countless cans of energy drink and eyes propped open with matchsticks, i wonder who is going to bag the first download?
woop woop woop woop come on ots !!!!!!
I intend to use it on my gigs this weekend, along with my chamsys and dmxcontrol powered lighting rig, unless esperance dictates otherwise :thumb: :thumb: fingers crossed!
waiting patiently,anxiously,fervently,excitedly,still,with baited breath, [what the hell is baited breath]
what fish can you catch............aaahem "cough" Hurry up i can't contain my excitement I am Soooooo Happy I could shhhhhhhh oh no dont say that!!!!!! {scream faint } etc etc
Brian M
I'm off to bed..... It will be here when it gets here.....
So it will be released 1am here in Charlottesville, VA (USA) Eastern Time correct?
If you look at the top of this forum, it shows a count down clock. When that clock gets to zero....or hopefully some time before that, it will be released. Midnight, Hawaii time. I believe they are 5 hours behind Central time. Not sure what time zone you're in, but I'm sure you can do the math for your time zone.
It says for me on the east coast of Australia "It is finally here!"
I'm wondering if that counter picks up where you are located and not the Hawaii time zone.
It is counting down to midnight in Hawaii...the time is right on for me. I still have up to 8 hours to wait (Central time in the States) bummer. It is 3:23 pm in Hawaii, that means another 8 1/2 hours to go, which is correct according to the timer on the page....again...bummer. It's almost lunch time in Australia....They are eating lunch and giggling feverishly at us salivating at the time...I'm dying here....
Here in the US on the east coast it says: 07 Hours, 33 Minutes, 40 Seconds.
Because Australia has past the midnight time it is say that, I think it is based on where you ISP is located as well.
Ok, well now I'm really confused.....JEFF!!!!!!!
Well either way, it will be here around 1am-6am or so for me here in VA :thumbsup:
It will be hopefuly released at 7pm AEST Sydney Brisbaine and Melbourne time.
It should be released by 8PM Australian eastern standard time which will be 12AM August 1 in Hawaii.
good morning all :laugh:
it is now august !!!! :thumbsup:
i month short of last septembers release..so nearly a year... :ohmy:
hope you wait has been worth it :thumbsup:
Ok wtf is it? I looked on the internet I looked under my bed , in the garden everywhere i cant find it. dammit its got to be an april fool from last april.
WHERE IS ESPERANCE? Who has nicked it?
:p
time fo a cuppa and a biscuit...and a wee watch of Kung Fu Hustle..lighten the day a bit.
as our american friends would say..Have A Nice Day !!!!
:laugh:
They are gonna make us wait 'till the very last second, aren't they? :angry1:
Well, I'm working for the next 9 hours, and it's slow night, so I guess I'll just be checking my email every 5 minutes.
Silly. Very, very silly. But here I am. :happy:
I'm back, so you tired guys can go take a nap, i'll wake you if it arrives before the witching hour
Just after 6:30pm AEST, looking foward to 8pm. Bring it on.
Well its now 11:00 pm 7/31 HST. One more hour till midnight and I'm going to bed.
We'll see what happens in the morning.
This is crazy. Do you think they might miss the deadline???
I don't think so but who knows.
They might, but I doubt it. Someone over on FB said they did the "last minute" thing when they released karaoke/video too. That was a huge release, so hopefully Esperance will blow our freakin' minds. :thumbsup:
I can't wait! Just wish I didn't have to work tomorrow. :icon_lol:
Quote from: larichardson73 on August 01, 2012, 09:14:02 AM
I can't wait! Just wish I didn't have to work tomorrow. :icon_lol:
I hear you! I got about 4 hours sleep. I am hoping to check out Esperance (at least see what it looks like and what features it has) and maybe catch a lil' nap before going to work...
This for you guys in the states is worse than waiting up for the Olympics.
Ready or not...here we come! ;^}
Jeff you need to change the time clock from;
edargpU within It is finally here!
to
edargpU better late than never!
:rolleyes: Keith
No joy for us little un-upgradeable licencees yet!!!!!!!
No trial or upgrade amount yet to view the new look!!!!!!
Hope some of you can upload some pics for the rest of us!!!!!! :angry1:
I have attached a picture of the new layout for you :)
the trial is already up even though it says its 1.85, logon to otszone and download the trial it's Esperance
Guess I know what I'm doing after work today! Its very interesting that they have called it v1.9, and don't really have any details on what it can do posted on the website!
I think I'll download the demo (I hear over on Facebook that nobody's license is working right now) on a totally separate PC to play with.
Dalmus - As I have stated on another topic here mine ugraded like a charm over the old one on a WIN7 (internet connected) and the licience installed itself with a button push as 1.90 opened for the 1st time.
No issues
The shortcut Steve provides us gives us much detail on what Esperance does include, and what was excluded, and removed from this release. Well worth the read IMO.
I like how genres will be upgraded to include 255 instead of 127 in supposedly the next release. The next release should be a rework of the media library format to allow for this and a few other changes that will allow for the completion of the looping capabilities, and some other new features that are also supposedly developed, but waiting for this library rework.
Mine appears to be working fine. I installed it and had a quick play via teamviewer on my phone. When I get back home I will have a proper play.
I downloaded the trial version onto my main PC. I didn't want to update yet, since I am running a live station.
Am I crazy, or is there no "scheduling" function? In the main menu, under options, where it used to say "scheduling and logging", now it just says, "logging". I kinda need that scheduling piece. Am I missing something
My licenced Ots AV DJ (Pro-Classic+) shows Sheduling and Logging under the Options menu if that is any help.
Thanks Darryl. Maybe that's the problem, that I'm using the trial. Also, I just imported all my Ots files. I didn't install my library, so there are no categories or anything. Also, no playlist templates loaded.
I downloaded the trial for OtsAVTV here, and it includes the Scheduling and logging menues... Perhaps it's trial version specific. You should download the trial that you would be using as a registered user of that product to give it a proper trial.